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Bitter about Obama

Satirist Girodian tries to advance discussion with humor, but tends to overkill

Paradigm now so thoroughly deconstructed that laughter is best medicine in HIV∫AIDS, but it is difficult

Over at YBYL, Lee Evans adds milder plea

Marcel Girodian is a mysterious figure who some years ago took up writing little satirical news items which he emailed around to amuse Peter Duesberg and other stars of the galaxy of people who, with unending justifications produced by reviewing the mainstream scientific literature, deny the sense and the validity of the global HIV∫AIDS paradigm, as promulgated, promoted and pontificated by Anthony Fauci, Robert Gallo, John P.Moore and other suns of illumination in the science of AIDS, who thereby label them “denialist” as if they were Holocaust denialists instead of supporters of good science supported by the literature.

Time to laugh and move on

That’s another story, of course, so interminably elucidated in the posts here over the last two years, which are now so innumerable in favor of a Congressional committee investigation into this expensive and frankly murderous gallop down a cul de sac of science that we are now inclined to expand the coverage of this modest little corner of enlightenment in the vast Web universe on other topics, such as global warming, the origin of the universe and other more interesting and challenging topics, where there are more complicated pros and cons.

For the dispute about the validity of HIV as the cause of AIDS is now so one sided in terms of reason and accumulating evidence that not much more can be said, except to point out that John P. Moore is one of the great truthtellers and critics of the HIV∫AIDS paradigm, contrary to his public reputation as the chief scientific goon perpetrating social and intellectual violence on behalf of the conventional wisdom on which his macaque research depends. We will demonstrate this point – that Moore is in fact a heroic closet AIDS dissident – in one of our next posts.

With the HIV∫AIDS theory now as dead in the minds of readers who have paid attention as the parrot in the famous Monty Python sketch, it is time in fact to laugh at the Ministry of Silly Walks (NIAID) scientific rationalizations which are used as crumbling pillars of support for the aging paradigm platform which is creaking and swaying beneath the feet of Fauci et al as they try to maintain the flow of public and drug company funds into this unproductive and rather fetid scientific backwater. (Anyone interested in supporting this inflow should join the May 20 AIDS Walkathon in Central Park, New York City.)

Marcel strikes again

That’s where Marcel Girodian comes in. We need to turn from crying about this outrage to reason and independent thought to laughing at the human tragi-comedy of it all. We need in fact, a satirist, and Girodian is the man. We were reading one of the best of his earlier efforts the other day, “Gallo Discovers A New Virus” (click Show)


By Gina Kolada
The New York Times

Washington D.C. (December 4)–Dr. Robert Gallo,
discoverer of the AIDS virus, stunned the scientific
community today with the discovery of a new virus that
is possibly even more deadly than HIV.

Speaking at an internationally televised press
conference in the Georgetown Hilton, Gallo announced
that he had discovered the virus responsible for the
biggest scourge of mankind–malnutrition.

“It’s simply not true that malnutrition is caused by
not having enough food to eat,” the famed virologist
said. “Our ground-breaking discovery proves that it is
caused by a sexually-transmitted virus.”

Gallo, who has often been described as a genius, gave
the assembled press corps a glimpse of his thinking:
“I knew that malnutrition couldn’t be caused by lack
of food,” he said. “Everybody knows that globalization
has raised living standards for all the world’s
people, with agencies like the World Bank and IMF
making sure that people in places like Indonesia and
Sri Lanka make very affluent livings making sneakers
and t-shirts for Wal-Mart and K-Mart.”

“So it had to be a virus. Sure enough, we found a new
retrovirus in the blood and semen of sexually active
malnourished people from third world countries. Our
experiments prove that in infected people, the virus
eats the food before the person can utilize it. Those
bloated stomachs children in Africa get are not due to
lack of food–it’s the virus getting fatter and fatter
while the person starves.”

He added, “This is one of the great breakthroughs in
the history of biology, comparable to Pasteur’s germ
theory and the theory of evolution.”

Asked how the millions of malnourished children in the
world could have contracted a sexually transmitted
malnutrition virus, Gallo said, “Simple. These childen
have been sexually abused. Their parents should all be

Gallo said that his discovery means it is pointless
for governments and the UN to spend billions of
dollars on food aid for the poor. “All they’re doing
is feeding the virus,” he said. He called for all such
moneys to be diverted instead to the research
community, in order to develop treatments for the
virus. “With proper funding, we can develop a vaccine
for this virus within two years,” he said confidently.
“We must immediately make no less than 170 billion
dollars available to retrovirus specialists. Not to do
so would constitute an act of terrorism against all
people with malnutrition.”

The American Association of Scientific Researchers
hailed Gallo’s discovery. “It’s the disgrace of the
century that this great man has not been awarded a
Nobel Prize,” said Seth Gummowitz, the association’s

The Business Roundtable, US Chamber of Commerce, World
Bank, and Association of Sweatshop Manufacturers all
lavished praise on Gallo. “This shows that the good
people who operate the international garment industry
are not to blame for people’s hunger,” said Selfishio
Grabowski, head of the Sweatshop group.

The Agribusiness Entrepreneurs Association, which has
endured years of criticism for paying sub-minimum
wages to migrant farm workers, also praised Gallo.
“Everybody has plenty of money for food,” said
Gadabout Pincharama, the association’s secretary.
“It’s too bad that some people have the Malnutrition
Virus, but that’s not our fault.”

US Labor Secretary Wolf Bumby seconded the opinion and
called for a cut in the minimum wage. “These so-called
lower income workers have been feeding off the
government long enough,” he said to reporters aboard
his government jet as he flew to the South of France
to attend a labor conference. “They can get by with
just one Cadillac instead of two. Gallo’s brilliant
discovery should be used to re-think all areas of
government policy.”

The Pharmaeutical Manufacturers’ Association
immediately announced that it would start work on
drugs and a vaccine to fight the malnutrition virus,
as soon as research funds were made available by the

Apparently awed by Gallo’s discovery, Senator Hugh
Drango of Texas, chairman of the Senate Agriculture
Committee, proposed legislation that would empower the
National Parks Service to build a giant statue of Dr.
Gallo in a prominent place in the capital area. Drango
suggested that the statue should be Eiffel Tower-sized
and should bestride the Beltway at the exit that leads
to the congressional office buildings. “Everyone in
government should draw inspiration from the example of
Bob Gallo,” he said. “He is what this town is all

c 2001 by satirist Marcel Girodian

from 2001 and chuckling when another arrived in the email from the intrepid author, so here it is.


Senator Obama Accused of Terrorism

By Marcel Girodian (see Special Note below)
The Joliet (Illinois) Tribune

Kisumu, Kenya. May 2. He’s a rising star of the Democratic party, a front-runner for the 2008 presidential nomination. Could the distinguished Senator Obama Bin Led-on also be a terrorist?

That’s what Imamu Mbulu has been saying for months. Mbulu, the director of Aids Alternatives Kenya, says that Bin Led-on has been actively terrorizing the people of his country.

“On August 26, 2006, Obama Bin Led-on steered two jets loaded with HIV tests into a fateful encounter with the people of Kenya,” said Mbulu. “The twin towers of Kenya’s greatness — her people’s optimism and solidarity — were attacked in broad daylight.”

“The impact of that event was so great, today we refer to that day as ‘8/26.’

“Here’s how Bin Led-on did it. He and his wife came here and got tested for HIV in front of the TV cameras. ‘Get tested, get tested,’ he shouted to everybody. ‘If a US senator can get tested and his wife can get tested, then everybody in this crowd can get tested! Everybody in this city can get tested!'”

“People were so impressed with Bin Led-on’s stunt, they threw caution to the wind and got tested themselves.”

Twenty-four year old seamstress Bahati Odaba tells what happened next. “I wasn’t so fortunate as Bin Led-on,” she said. “My test came up positive. When I went to my husband to be consoled, he wouldn’t touch me. He got his things and moved out of the house that night.”

“Now none of my friends will come near me, and our children are pariahs at school.”

Chiumbo Zuraaba, too, was impressed by Bin Led-on’s charisma, and got tested. After the brawny construction worker tested positive, he took the medicine that the government gave him for free, thanks to the efforts of the Clinton and Bill Gates Foundations. Within days, he got very sick, within weeks, his muscles had wasted away, and within seven months he was dead from kidney failure. “They said he must have had a very powerful strain of the virus in him,” said his son Nthanda. “But I think it was the medicine that killed him.”

Bujune Obasanjo is now what they call an “AIDS orphan.” “My mom got tested after she listened to Obama Bin Led-on,” he said. “After she tested positive, she was cryin’ all the time. She couldn’t eat, she couldn’t sleep. The authorities wouldn’t let her breast feed Samanya, my baby sister, and Samanya just got weaker and weaker on that formula they forced her to drink. Mom left a message for our grandmother to take care of us. We found her in the outhouse that night. She cut her wrists with a rusty old lid from a tin can.”

Impact of the tests

Abubakar Malaho, a single man who works as a carpenter, was also persuaded by Obama Bin Led-on to take the test. After he tested positive, his girlfriend flew the coop. He tried dating others but, knowing that he was legally required to inform people of his HIV status before having sex with them, or be charged with attempted murder, he found that nobody would sleep with him, even with a condom. He’s lost all hope of ever finding a partner. “Obama didn’t tell me that would happen,” he grumbled.

Dayo Hatingo and her husband Simba both tested positive after listening to Bin Led-on. The next day, they walked to the river and drowned their children, then themselves. They didn’t want to face the hell that their lives would surely become, being HIV+ lepers.

There are hundreds of stories like these in Kisumu, where Bin Led-on gave his demonstration.

“Most of the stories are the same,” says Mbulu. “People listened to Bin Led-on, and got tested, and when they tested positive, they collapsed into a heap of rubble on the floor, their psyches pulversized into dust, overwhelmed with depression. Nobody can survive those tests, because they take away a person’s hope for the future. They cause staggering levels of depression and stress, which are proven in the medical journals to depress the immune system. They shatter people’s lives and turn people into untouchables who just want to die and end their ordeal. It’s the test that’s deadly, not the virus.”

“Bin Led-on is assisting in what I think is a controlled demolition of the African population masquerading as ‘humanitarianism’,” Mbulu said.

He continued, “The ones strong enough to survive the initial impact of the test result later committed suicide, or died from the deadly chemotherapy drugs that Bin Led-on says are ‘life-saving.’ Mostly the drugs destroyed their livers, others died when the drugs gave them heart attacks, nerve damage, uncontrollable diarrhea, or caused their skin to come off in sheets. Meanwhile, no controlled scientific study has ever been done that has shown these drugs to prolong life when compared to a group that didn’t take them. Obama been Led-on’ about that, too.”

Mbulu was visibly trying to control his anger. “Obama also failed to mention that none of these tests detect HIV, they only detect antibodies thought to be associated with HIV. But the scientific literature demonstrates that these antibodies can be produced by any of over 70 conditions, including the common cold, pregnancy or past pregnancy, TB, many common tropical infections, and even vaccinations. Any of these common conditions might result in a ‘false positive,’ and almost all Africans have one or more of these conditions. The fact is that every HIV test comes with a disclaimer in fine print that says that the test doesn’t detect HIV and should not be used to diagnose HIV. Yet Bin Led-on never disclosed any of this information to the poor folks he urged to get tested! Just like Jim Jones, he said ‘Listen to me, I’m your leader. Drink the Kool-Aid, drink the Kool-Aid’!”

In addition, Bin Led-on didn’t tell people that the testing protocols used to stigmatize people as HIV+ outcasts in the Third World are not approved to diagnose HIV in Bin Led-on’s native US, according to Mbulu. Because of this double standard, many people who test positive in Africa and Asia would not be considered positive in the US, or in Australia or France. “This is outrageous,” Mbulu said. “It’s obvious that HIV positivity is politically, not medically, defined. And Bin Led-on never would have taken that test for the TV cameras if he didn’t already know that he tests negative. No politician would take a chance like that. He knew, yet he acts like it was a big surprise, ‘Oh, I’m so happy now, I know my status!’ How dumb does he think we are?”

“This man comes here, posing as a brother, saying he’s gonna save us from the deadly virus, and in reality he’s just working for the global elitists who want to slowly kill us with chemo so the drug industry investors can profit and the elitists’ goal of population reduction can be achieved.”

“Bin Led-on also didn’t tell us that there are thousands of scientists thousands of scientists who say that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS and that the reason we are told otherwise is because medical science and the media are corrupt and in bed with politicians and the drug industry. They need to constantly have a new ‘crisis’ so they can justify giving away the taxpayers’ money to politically connected drug companies and researchers who say they can ‘fight’ the crisis. And the newspapers always need a lurid new story so they can sell their toilet paper sheets, even have drug industry tycoons on their boards of directors like the New York Times does, so they treat every dubious claim of a new crisis as if it were real, report self-serving scientific theories from corrupt researchers as if they were proven facts, and fan the flames of hysteria to boost their circulation and keep their drug industry advertisers and directors happy.”

“This man Bin Led-on says he’s one of us, but his actions indicate otherwise. On November 22, 2005, he gave a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, the Global Elitist group run by the Rockefellers, a family that is not only intimately connected to the drug industry, but practically invented allopathic, so-called ‘scientific’ medicine in the early years of the 20th century by bribing medical schools so they would abandon all research into non-toxic remedies found in nature and focus instead on developing petrochemical-based toxic pills that could be patented for huge profits. Bin Led-on even remarked that he was ‘privileged’ to address the notorious Council.

“It’s too bad that people are conned by these opportunist black people whose color cloaks the reality that they secretly serve the white corporate elite,” said Mbulu. “Bin Led-on, Rice, Winfrey, Powell, Jackson, Thomas, are all just front men for the globalist power brokers. They serve as the “humane, caring” black faces for the public to see on TV, obscuring the callous rich white men behind the curtain. People think that because these sycophants are black, or women, or black women, that the policies they advocate must be ‘liberal’ and ‘compassionate.’ That’s just what their Machiavellian elitist puppetmasters want you to think!”

“If Bin Led-on cares about black folks so much, why was his first act as a US Senator, to refuse to support the Congressional Black Caucus in their challenge to Ohio’s nullification of hundreds of thousands of black voters’ ballots, an outrageous theft that helped Bush steal the election? Then Bin Led-on voted for Bush’s far right wing Supreme Court nominee, voted for a bill that makes it essentially impossible for the little people to sue huge corporations that have harmed or defrauded them, and voted to renew the Patriot Act that takes away Americans’ constitutional rights and turns the country into a virtual police state, gives the government almost unlimited powers to spy on Americans, gives the president imperial powers to arrest Americans without any evidence and hold them without trial, even strip them of their citizenship, all on the president’s say-so, with no proof and no constitutional process. Do black people really want to swallow Bin Led-on’s Kool-Aid?”

Kenyan investigators are trying to locate Obama Bin Led-on in order to hold him accountable for the many deaths caused by the events of 8/26. He is thought to be hiding in “the Cave,” a luxuriously appointed underground biosphere near Washington DC that the US government has built as a retreat for the power elite in the event of nuclear war that kills all the common people.

But tapes have surfaced that purport to show Obama Bin Led-on addressing his followers in various cities across the US. Investigators are not sure whether this is the same Bin Led-on, or a double.

Wherever Obama Bin Led-on may be, his Al-Misleadya terrorist organization still functions. One of its New York cells, run by the noted Aids terrorist Dr. John Peemore, is reportedly planning more hijac�ings of common sense and the scientific method, and consequently more deaths and misery from Hiv/Aids terrorism. Informers in the Al-Misleadya organization report that more planeloads full of HIV tests and Aids drugs are being readied for the next attacks which will be targeted at more than 10 South and Central African nations heretofore largely spared by the Aids establishment.

Informed of Mbulu’s accusations against Obama Bin Led-on, an Al-Misleadya spokesmen told the Tribune that Mbulu was just a denialist crank, and that even the liberal New York Times had refused to publish an essay Mbulu wrote that criticized Bin Led-on. “Mbulu probably also doubts that the Holocaust happened,” the spokesman said. “He’s just a web-surfing loser, and bitter about it. He doesn’t even own a car. He lives in some shack in some mosquito-infested shithole village in Africa. The Senator owns a historic $1.6 million mansion in South Chicago. He’s already raised over $30 million for his campaign. Obama Bin Led-on is a winner, he demonstrates that every black person can rise to the top of the heap.”

(SPECIAL NOTE: As comments below this article indicate, this text may not be up for long, since we changed the names Marcel used – Obama Bin Lying and Al Killya – for Osama Bin Led-on and Al Misleadya because we felt that Obama is merely misled, not actually aiming to kill people knowing that HIV is wrong, as some others do. He is, moreover, a worthy candidate for the presidency and we would hope that he can be influenced to research the HIV∫AIDS situation more deeply.

The author, however, awoke in a far time zone to find this desecration of his text inappropriate and fought to get his original names back and, when faced with resistance, to withdraw his masterwork entirely. At the time of writing we still hope he will change his mind once he has slept through another Thai night, but if not we will have to erase it from our portion of the ether. – Ed.)

More truth than jest

If anyone detects a slightly bitter tone to this comic turn, it no doubt arises from the fact that the consequences of newcomer Barack Obama’s gullibility are so deadly for the lives and happiness of so many people, especially black people in Africa, and the description is more real than invention..

Interestingly, in a breathtaking coincidence, “You Bet Your Life” has put up a little cartoon today on the same theme, Obama with Bin Laden’s face, concocted expertly by Harvey Bialy, the editor, but with a tactful appeal to Obama from Lee Evans, the Olympic athlete and black who, like us, is kindly disposed towards Barack Obama and hopes he will learn that he has made a mistake in supporting HIV∫AIDS conventional wisdom.

If there is anyone intellectually sharp enough to detect that an unprecedented giant game of Foolya for Funds is going on in HIV∫AIDS, it will be Barack Obama, who clearly has one of the most active minds in politics. We hope that Girodian’s satire and Evan’s remarks get to him somehow.

58 Responses to “Bitter about Obama”

  1. kyinaz Says:

    I agree with the other readers, here, who have expressed concern over your censorship of Marcel’s work. Such censorship is inexcusable and no amount of rationalization can justify your actions. You could have chosen not to post Marcel’s piece, if you felt it was too critical of Obama, or in the least, you could have presented your editorial changes to Marcel for his approval and/or disapproval. Those were the respectable options.

    That said, I appreciate your dedication and hard work with this blog, TS, and though I haven’t been a regularly contributor recently, I continue to read it. I hope that such trivial acts of censorship will not become commonplace, and by trivial, I’m referring to your insistence on defending Obama. As Douglas Bishop points out, Obama is hardly worthy of obsequious acts of admiration. He is a typical bi-partisan “Yes”-man, and that unfortunately will hardly be good enough to rescue our failing empire. If he were indeed a saint, I, like others, would be open to hearing justifications for your nominal “modifications”, but given the political realities involved, such modifications were absolutely unnecessary.


  2. Robert Houston Says:

    I have to disagree with “kyinaz” and any other commentators who would turn an editorial dispute about two names into an issue of censorship. Rarely in publishing are writers’ works published without editing. To suggest that any editing is censorship is absurd. How is it censorship when Truthseeker permitted Marcel Girodian to post his original piece, unchanged, in the comments?

    As TS pointed out, Marcel was apprised of the proposed changes in advance but failed to reply privately before the piece was posted. Instead, Marcel waited till after it went up and then made a public issue in the comments. Having read both versions, I found Truthseeker’s modified form (with the two name changes) to be much superior, for it respected the truth of the matter: that Sen. Obama has been misled.

    Marcel’s original piece was juvenile and extreme in accusing Obama of lyin’ (the colloquial form of the word “lying” – for the benefit of Dane MacDonald), terrorizing, and trying to “kill ya”. This is a form of “swift boat” smear job on a presidential candidate. In advocating HIV testing and ARV drugs for Africa, as well as America, Obama’s views are similar to those of Pres. Bush and Pres. Clinton and the entire American political and medical establishment. (In only one respect are they significantly different: Obama has advocated mandatory HIV testing but Marcel’s critique never even mentioned this.)

    Clearly, Truthseeker exercised proper editorial judgment in making the name changes. It is normal for editors to change misleading wording and tone down inflammatory material, in order maintain normal civilized standards and correct any elements of calumny and blatant falsehood, such as Marcel’s heavy-handed “satire” originally displayed. YBYL, where the hypocritical MacDonald has been the managing editor, also required several changes in the piece and would not publish it in the original form. (As I suggested earlier, a closer parody of “bin Laden” – the standard spelling – would have been “bin Ledon” and a better substitute for the Marcel’s “Al-Killya” would be “Al Niaida.”)

    TS may have been overly tolerant, however, allowing Marcel to post his original with its smear-word names intact. David Crowe could also be faulted for granting Marcel’s vain wish of propounding his pristine original, which was posted on May 10 at the ARAS website. It gives a sleazy impression of AIDS dissidents as a lunatic fringe who disregard the facts and promote grotesque images of anyone who’s been misled by the AIDS establishment.

  3. MacDonald Says:

    It always makes one’s job easier when those who are desperately trying to defend the indefensible start contradicting themselves in the same thread, or even in the same comment, and providing examples by which to measure proper conduct.

    1. Marcel and Harvey Bialy worked on publishing the satire for YBYL. A misunderstanding arose on Marcel’s part concerning the copy he was given to approve prior to publishing Marcel’s objection did not concern the contents but the formatting. He thought the formatting might of the document might be changed in uploading – which was not the case. Although this objection truly was trivial, YBYL, respected the author’s wishes and did not go ahead with publishing.

    2. Whether one is Danish, American, black, Jew or gay it is no less a misrepresentation to append an apostrophe to Marcel’s spelling of the name ‘lyin’ than appending a ‘g’. Now the two dynamic apologists have attempted both in order to force their censorious views on the rest of us.

    3. To exaggerate and impress upon us the perceived sinfulness of the original ‘bin Lyin’,
    Mr Houston tries to pretend the text was cured of being ‘juvenile’, ‘heavy handed’ and ‘extreme’ by changing two funny-names. Fortunately the proof is in the pudding: anybody can glance through the piece and see for themselves that one of the only subtle or wittily suggestive features in truly satirical tradition are the names, especially bin Lyin’ for bin Ladin, whereas the rest of the text is made up of plain spelled-out accusations put in fictional characters’ mouths. But even Mr. Houston and Mr. Truthseeker cannot maintain such a contradictory claim for long That is why the already edited piece as a whole is also called ‘overkill’ and ‘bitter’, more truth than satire”. It is also why they cannot answer the question why they think it is less ‘swift boat’ to publish a piece accusing Obama of terrorism than one suggesting he is not truthful.

    4. In an attempt along these lines, which again would make for great satire had it only been intended that way, Mr Houston, who like Mr. Truthseeker has some privileged access to Obama’s conscience and therefore knows he is not lying, offers us as proof of Obama honourable intentions that his views on HIV testing are the same as Clinton’s and Bush’s. . . I’ll allow the reader a minute to wipe his tears and sow together his split sides. . .
    The idea (I think) is that all our leaders are naive, mislead dogooders incapable of seeing through even the most glaring hypocrisy, which is somehow supposed to excuse them morally.

    5. Speaking of which, another tell-tale sign of desperation is that Mr. Houston now makes the same mistake as Hitler and the Bush admin. in opening more fronts than necessary. Thus, he feels he has to accuse my dignified self of ‘hypocrisy’ on what grounds are not clear. He also feels David Crowe should be faulted for promoting a “sleazy impression of AIDS dissidents as a lunatic fringe who disregard the facts and promote grotesque images of anyone who’s been misled by the AIDS establishment”. And in a move representing a kind of hypocrisy which will be very familiar to a few here, he even suggests his own party has been to soft in dealing with miscreants:

    TS may have been overly tolerant, however, allowing Marcel to post his original with its smear-word names intact.

    Really now Mr. Houston, all this over one single name which means ‘deliberately untruthful’ when a ‘g’ or an apostrophe is appended to it?

  4. Truthseeker Says:

    The contributions claiming censorship and that we altered the essential character of Marcel’s contribution are so witless and irritating in their inability to take in the points answering them, fully restated by Houston’s exemplary post above, that we are concerned that they are sidetracking the purpose of the blog and what is worse, exposing the trivial level of attention of the tiny portion of the audience interested in making these inappropriate comments, so we hope there will be no more examples of this silliness.

    This blog exists to make it clear that there are major paradigms in science that resist review and replacement for spurious reasons to do with power politics, the religious impulse, venality, fear and other human impulses and motivations, and we do not want the picture to be muddied by evidence that the critics themselves or their supporters are unable to grasp elementary clarifications. The reputation of the science critics in HIV∫AIDS has already been lowered by the Perth group in Adelaide who were fatheaded enough to shoot themselves in the foot by appearing to raise the question of the very existence of the Virus and we don’t need another discussion here demonstrating that commentators cannot understand the simple point that Obama has no idea that the HIV∫AIDS lore he has been spoonfed is baseless paradox out of line with its own literature.

    That Marcel in his rote iconoclasm and paranoia about the ruling classes, whom he appears to think are geniuses of cunning conspiracy and all hypocritical liars if they profess idealism, thinks he must accuse Obama of being a knowing liar and trying to murder HIV positive people by consciously feeding them into the maw of the dragon is his business except when he is on this site, which will edit him or anybody else trying to promulgate unrealistic and inaccurate stories, whether in an attempt to be satirical or not.

    Anyone here who supports him on the spurious basis that he is being “censored” when he is being edited for the very good reasons that this site must maintain the standard of truth and accuracy inherent in its very purpose will be answered with disapproval and requests to cease before they bring into question the sterling reputation of our distinguished contributors and of the only paradigm review site on the Web where truth is the absolute arbiter and mastery of the literature the sine qua non of discussion, even in satire.

  5. MacDonald Says:

    I applaud and agree with the Truthseeker’s insight that this discussion, which he previously affected to think so important, and Marcel’s piece, which he for his very own reasons of consistent inconsistency is still loth to delete, are sidetracking the (stated) purpose of his blog.

    I also applaud the freethinking host for telling us in no uncertain terms how he really feels about his erstwhile so distinguished contributors, and furthermore for pointing a suitable digit towards the geographical origin of the dissident’s loss of reputation. I take back everything I’ve said about him being hypocritical.

    I’m looking forward to the next post, which as I understand it, will be written by someone our host would never feel the need to censor, and thus bring us all back on track.

  6. Nick Naylor Says:

    TS: The reputation of the science critics in HIV∫AIDS has already been lowered by the Perth group in Adelaide who were fatheaded enough to shoot themselves in the foot by appearing to raise the question of the very existence of the Virus and we don’t need another discussion here demonstrating that commentators cannot understand the simple point that Obama has no idea that the HIV∫AIDS lore he has been spoonfed is baseless paradox out of line with its own literature.

    So let us here untangle the frustration behind this paragraph, where our host is quite rightly trying to redirect the discussion to the more fruitful matters having to do with “the paradigm”, that most enigmatic of words, which, like “HIV” itself, is the source of endless funding for philosophers and science-historians. And while he rightly complains about those who are so “witless and irritating in their inability to take in the points answering them”, I must ask that he consider the same standard applied to him. Not, let’s quickly add, that our noble truthseeking blog host IS “witless” or “irritating”, but such qualities are indeed relative, in the eyes of the beholder, as we all know.

    And as one who has accepted the council of TS on the importance of careful and precise statements, it is disappointing, to say the least, to see “Perth”, “fatheaded” and “the very existence of the virus”, in the same sentence. It almost looks like the fine details so-far conveyed to our truthseeking science guardian on matters retroviral have been ignored. Here’s a thought: if the spoonfeeding of Senator Obama is to be counteracted, how about reversing the idea that a single deadly immune destroying virus is the same as a cloned piece of 10 kb DNA equal to identical functional genes that have co-evolved with the genomes of animals since the Cambrian Explosion.

    Perhaps MacDonald is justly irritated that you’ve ignored his counter “HIV-existence” argument based on text analysis, which silly me believes would be of interest to journalists, to get this discussion – what’s responsible for the lowering of the reputation of AIDS paradigm critics – beyond simplistic talking points. Let’s get to that skeleton rattling around in the closet: scientific ignorance and illiteracy in general, and how science journalists contribute to this problem, specifically on coverage of retroviruses.

    Here’s a fine example of this problem from last night’s Republican debate: Brave Ron Paul is making an argument of sophistication concerning the emotional matter of American foreign policy in the Middle East in front of an audience in South Carolina that obviously doesn’t even know what “blowback” means.

    The moderator appears to feign incomprehension of the nuanced points he makes and goes for the cheap shot in that wonderful “lowest-common-denominator” manner we’ve come to know so well: “Are you suggesting that we invited the 911 attack, sir?”

    Paul responds, “Have you ever READ the reasons they attacked?

    And I wonder, I just wonder, if journalists read anything beyond see Spot run …

    We can make a deal: let’s move beyond Marcel – a fine satirist – AND gratuitous insults directed at the Perth Group and maybe, just maybe, Senator Obama won’t think we’re ALL a bunch of lunatics.

  7. Truthseeker Says:

    Thank you MacDonald for your deftly felicitous, amusingly ironic, urbanely permissive but still encouragingly supportive words in favor of pulling the engine of NAR out of the swamp into which it headed rather overconfidently and its reversing up the side track and restoration to the rails of the main line and resumed motion full steam ahead towards the final destination of all enlightened blogs in science, which is to substitute truth for error, goodwill for dissension, and constructive dialogue for trivial distraction when lives are at stake and the happiness of millions in question, starting with the current jury selection in Canada in that nation’s first assault on the freedom and sanity of an unfortunate gentleman reckoned to be positive for antibodies to HIV which according to the unsubstantiated science of Robert Gallo and contrary to the entire study literature of the field turns him into a deadly weapon capable of murder by disease, through the witchhunting harassment of mothers and babes who attempt to escape the uselessly deleterious and debilitating drugs which are forced on them by officious ignoramuses, to the urging of the CDC and Obama that we all be put in the same boat as soon as possible by ensuring that every one in the country is tested for HIV antibodies.

    Satire may not be a sufficient weapon in the face of this increasingly ominous stage of the unfurling of the consequences of scientific error, so we understand perfectly the sources of Marcel’s bitterness, let us say that. But those of us trying to right this wrong must stand above disregard for truth ourselves, making sure that we plant the flag of accuracy in science on the highest mountain top of debate, beside NAR, and not leave it forgetfully at base camp far below, where it may be trampled on by satirists, however masterful in their outrage.

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