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Attack on Mbeki and nutrients ends AIDS bash

Simple approach doesn’t rate with UN fantasist when there are toxic drugs to push

How Dr. Mantombazana “Manto” Tshabalala-Msimang should have defended herself

Why Mexico City 2008 may be very different!

The dresses made of hundreds of condoms by a Brazilian “artist” and the rest of the artefacts of the Toronto AIDS Conference were packed up on Friday, presumably with a sense of coitus triste, since the world’s biggest ever gathering of HIV enthusiasts – 26,057 people wasted money and time attending this event without double checking its basic premise – won very little recognition from the locals, including the disappointment of being stood up by Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and not even attracting the most celebrated HIV?AIDS scientist in the history of the world, Robert Gallo.

Gallo was allegedly miffed because he wasn’t invited to give the main speech, possibly because when he agreed to give it in South Africa in 2000 he somehow failed to turn up (could this have been because he feared the HIV critics in the HIV Review Panel Mbeki commissioned that year before the conference might have stuck around? The Gallo family is known for 100% reliably producing emergencies when Peter Duesberg is expected to appear at a meeting where Gallo is scheduled to speak).

Laurie Garrett at the HIV Science and Responsible Journalism session is our prime source on this. As usual her prime source was a newspaper, the Toronto Globe and Mail, which had just published a story suggesting that the whole shebang was a waste of money and time:

LAURIE GARRETT: Well something interesting on that … there’s a story in today’s Globe and Mail. It’s part of their package of set up of this conference. The story is all basically alluding to the conference as being a total waste of time, just a bunch of glitz. Why is everybody here? Maybe that explains why there’s no banners welcoming us to this city as we come into the airport, why this is the first international AIDS conference I’ve ever been to where there’s no visibility, no red ribbons, nothing about AIDS on the streets. You don’t see it. You’d think we’d gone to the moon. But put that aside. The Globe and Mail piece has a long article that’s basically one voice. It’s Robert Gallo saying this conference sucks and that’s why I didn’t come. Why didn’t they interview the organizers to find out that Gallo was insisting he could only come if he could have a plenary speech. And when he was denied a plenary spot because he’d be previously offered one in Durban South Africa and then didn’t show up, that is why he is not here. So you have this report that biased towards giving everybody the perspective or the sense that this is a trash meeting, that one of the great scientists in the world says there’s no reason to come. And there wasn’t sufficient delving to really get to the bottom. They didn’t ask the organizers why isn’t he here.

In the case of the Canadians, as Hank points out on Barnesworld it may have had something to do with the fact that only 272 new cases of HIV/AIDS were discovered in Canada last year. Indeed, according to all reports local excitement was zero, with some 15,000 tickets unsold locally, and only scientists of the level of distinction of John P. Moore of Cornell bothering to turn up. As Lawrence Altman had told us previously, all the researchers with high-splash index science worth publishing in the top journals know better that to put themselves into this biennial zoo, even when it is on their doorstep.


SPECIAL NOTE: The next is in Mexico City, also nearby, in 2008. This is dangerously close to Cuernavaca and devilish critic and author Dr Harvey Bialy, currently the most fearsome live threat faced by the paradigm priesthood, many of whom he terrorizes almost daily with email messages well designed to undermine their confidence in the long term viability of their regime. We do not think it is impossible that many more key dissidents will attend and that Bialy and Peter Duesberg will give a joint press conference in 2008, since by that time the AIDS Monolith, even if not yet past its tipping point to collapse, will be in much deeper trouble than today. Only six months have passed since the watershed Harper’s piece, Celia Farber’s “Out of Control: AIDS and the Corruption of Medical Science”, gave mainstream editors an excuse to at least look at alternative views in HIV?AIDS, and the printing presses are already pumping out two of four more books on the topic, and a handful of mainstream media have dipped their toe (New York Post, New York Observer, Time Out Chicago, Boston Globe, and soon Canada’s Alive) in the forbidden stream. Mexico will come after an interval five times longer. END OF SPECIAL NOTE ********************************

Harper’s excuse, in fact, was that the meet was “too political”. The last Canadian PM to turn up at a local AIDS Conference was booed, and Harper seems to have good instincts (perhaps the guy also reads Harper’s religiously, since one can imagine it would be his favorite magazine). His substitute was booed this time (he sent three Ministers and the Canadian Attorney General).

The locals also feel that the AIDS gang are a little jumped up with all their demands that everyone pay so much attention to them, according to an otherwise fully propagandized columnist in the Globe on Saturday:

The very success of AIDS advocacy seems to have made it intemperate, and led some of its leaders to believe they have a “right” to bully and jeer, and a “right” to call people before them to bully and jeer them. Such was the reception given to Canada’s Minister of Health, Tony Clement, when he, in fact, did attend the conference. This was, at best, ill manners, and less than should be expected from visitors to a world conference toward our government’s representative.

It has a whiff of imperiousness derived from self-righteousness.


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Mr. Harper wasn’t the rude one

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The mammoth XVI International Aids Conference ended yesterday. Some press accounts put the number of delegates in Toronto at 24,000, others pegged it as high as 30,000-plus. Take either number, and it’s a massive gathering.

It must be quite an undertaking just to organize a meeting of this size. The logistics of travel and organization, the effort to secure funds from governments and private agencies to underwrite it, the labour that must go into setting an agenda that will meet the approval of so many different agencies, organizations and individuals attending — each must require a staggering effort.

It is plausible to ask whether a gathering of this size can honestly be called a “conference” at all, at least if, by conference, we mean an occasion for deliberation and exchange of views, an exercise in presentation, response and disinterested meditation on questions of research, policy and practice.

Considerations of this kind seem to have been behind the decision of Dr. Robert Gallo, the celebrated co-discoverer of the HIV virus, not to attend the Toronto meeting. At the 2004 conference in Barcelona, he was set upon by photographers and press as if he were a rock star, which led him to the totally wholesome reflection: “This is bad! I’m not Mick Jagger.”

He sees a “degradation” in the purposes of these meetings, their reliance on celebrities to garner attention, a “circus quality” that is inseparable from the designedly mass nature of these events. These high-profile assemblies are only conferences by courtesy of designation: In reality, they are media events. They are designed by their scale, and by the presence of their celebrity presenters, to leverage the greatest amount of world coverage for their cause. Which is an utterly legitimate ambition. A legion of causes, at any given moment, are all, sadly, in competition for the attention and consideration of the world.

And of the world’s causes — which range over a terrifically bleak terrain from Darfur to malnutrition — AIDS, curse though it is, may be said, in one particular, to be better situated than most. A great platoon of great names from the world of style and performance have commended the AIDS cause to the world almost from the epidemic’s outbreak. Good for the cause, and good for those who back it: It is as high on the world’s agenda as it is because of the skill and dedication of those who have chosen to support it.

The meeting in Toronto — the third time the international conference has been held in Canada — will be seen as part of that success. Not every meeting will have Bill Gates, the world’s richest philanthropist, as a lead speaker. And not every cause will be able to take advantage of the media magnetism of one of the world’s greatest political celebrities, Bill Clinton, to bring global attention to its needs.

AIDS remains a great scourge of our times, but in the catalogue of the world’s miseries, it is better placed, more prominently supported, and more widely understood than most.

On this understanding, I am a little puzzled by the acerbity of the comments that fell on Stephen Harper’s head for not attending the conference. As Mr. Harper has pointed out, three ministers of his government were in attendance, as was the Governor-General.

So it is not fair to say the government of Canada was not represented, or ignored the meeting. In fact, Canada contributed $4.5-million toward holding the event.

But the tone of the criticisms coming out of the meeting, from Stephen Lewis to Richard Gere, suggested nothing less than a moral default on Mr. Harper’s part for not attending. The last Canadian PM who did attend an AIDS conference was Brian Mulroney, and he got booed for his courtesy. It was very reasonable for Mr. Harper to anticipate that the same reception awaited him.

The very success of AIDS advocacy seems to have made it intemperate, and led some of its leaders to believe they have a “right” to bully and jeer, and a “right” to call people before them to bully and jeer them. Such was the reception given to Canada’s Minister of Health, Tony Clement, when he, in fact, did attend the conference. This was, at best, ill manners, and less than should be expected from visitors to a world conference toward our government’s representative.

It has a whiff of imperiousness derived from self-righteousness.

This is a stain on a noble effort, and a failing of courtesy. The failing of courtesy was not Stephen Harper’s refusal to attend, but the peremptory attitude that suggested that he had to. It’s something that happens, I suppose, when conferences grow so large, and those who organize them so important, they assume everyone has to oblige them.

Rex Murphy is a commentator with CBC-TV’s The National and host of CBC Radio One’s Cross-Country Checkup.

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Nancy Padian actually said at the HIV Science and Responsible Journalism that she was surprised “so few” people had turned up to the important session, presumably because she was hoping to get the message out as widely as possible that her studies in the nineties, proving beyond a shadow of doubt that HIV fails to transmit between lovers engaged in heterosexual sex often enough to form an epidemic of any kind, let alone a global pandemic, were NOT in any way contrary to the standard text, and anyone who thought so was misreading them, even though she had made the point very clearly in the paper at the time, and anyone can read it still. We will cover the point very thoroughly in our posts deconstructing every line of this session, and especially the Padian study issue, imminently.

But we await further information from the horse’s mouth as to whether the Conference really was less than met the eye, especially from the mysterious GS who has appeared in Comments to give us the real dope. Our new surprise informant is an HIV scientist, he says, actually researching how to defeat the nefarious Virus, but with enough of his wits about him still to see the points made by Irresponsible Blogs are not entirely invalid.

Nutrients rule – if not in Toronto

Meanwhile we hope he or others will throw further light on the attention if any paid at the Conference to nutrients as a factor in curing the symptoms of AIDS in Africa or indeed here, since as noted earlier in our post on the Causes and Cures of AIDS the literature indicates that this is the crux of the matter and HIV treatment is entirely irrelevant to any cure.

As indicated in early reports on the Conference, the South Africans installed a booth there where delegates could contemplate simple and non toxic nutrient immune system boosters such as beetroot and garlic supplied for very little money by a more conventional God than Western Pharma and minimal agricultural toil, but these were immediately scorned and derided by the HIV ideologues of TAC addicted to the idea of costly and immune system damaging commercial drugs designed by scientists in suits and supplied by profit making companies, and so ARVs were hastily added to the display.

However, this concession didn’t impress one UN official who was so filled with virtue that he couldn’t stop himself ending the conference by attacking Mbeki’s policy of encouraging the alternative treatment of basic and specific nourishment in a speech on Friday:

A top United Nations official delivered a blistering attack on South Africa on Friday at the closing of the 16th international AIDS meeting here, saying that its government “is still obtuse, dilatory and negligent about rolling out treatment.”

In a keynote address, the official, Stephen Lewis, the ambassador to Africa for AIDS for the United Nations, said South Africa “is the only country in Africa whose government continues to propound theories more worthy of a lunatic fringe than of a concerned and compassionate state.”


U.N. Official Assails South Africa on Its Response to AIDS

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Participants at the international AIDS conference in Toronto on Friday performed a play aimed at easing prejudice against people with H.I.V.


Published: August 19, 2006

TORONTO, Aug. 18 — A top United Nations official delivered a blistering attack on South Africa on Friday at the closing of the 16th international AIDS meeting here, saying that its government “is still obtuse, dilatory and negligent about rolling out treatment.”

In a keynote address, the official, Stephen Lewis, the ambassador to Africa for AIDS for the United Nations, said South Africa “is the only country in Africa whose government continues to propound theories more worthy of a lunatic fringe than of a concerned and compassionate state.”

South Africa has the largest number of H.I.V.-infected people in the world. Its president, Thabo Mbeki, has continually expressed skepticism that H.I.V. causes AIDS, and the country has questioned antiretroviral treatment and delayed providing it to pregnant women and AIDS patients.

In his remarks, Mr. Lewis said, “The government has a lot to atone for,” and “I’m of the opinion that they can never achieve redemption.”

He said he felt his job demanded that he advocate for the tens of millions of H.I.V.-infected people, including those in South Africa, even though many say a United Nations official has no right to criticize a member state.

Mr. Lewis has long been critical of countries for failing to help women who become infected.

“Gender inequality is driving the pandemic, and we will never subdue the gruesome force of AIDS until the rights of women become paramount in the struggle,” he said.

The inequality of women makes them highly vulnerable to becoming infected through “marital rape to rape as a war crime,” Mr. Lewis said, adding that, while sexual violence occurs everywhere, in Africa, “The violence and the virus go together.”

Preventing the transmission of the AIDS virus from infected pregnant women to newborns, which can be done with simple regimens, is “very near the top in the hierarchy of preventive measures,” he said. But the vast majority of pregnant women in the world, he said, go without such prevention, and even the women who receive it are not given full treatment to help keep them alive, so their children often become orphans.

Yet the world is doing very little for orphans whose number is expected to grow to 18 million by 2010. “I appeal to everyone to recognize that we are walking on the knife’s edge of an unsolvable human catastrophe,” Mr. Lewis said.

Mr. Lewis’s term as envoy ends in December at which time, he said, he hopes his successor will be an African woman.

Other speakers urged training more nurses and health workers in poor countries to deliver the antiretroviral drugs and preventive measures needed to stop the AIDS epidemic. The many international programs that are scaling up efforts to deliver antiretroviral drugs to poor people cannot succeed without large numbers of health workers to monitor the care of AIDS patients.

“We need hundreds of thousands of new nurses” in poor countries, said Dr. James McIntyre, an AIDS expert in South Africa.

But low salaries and poor working conditions are driving health workers into other jobs and away from those countries, leaving “too few people with the right skills,” said Anders Nordstrom, the acting director general of the World Health Organization. “It’s not enough to provide money and drugs and to train people, as important as they are” in the scale-up programs, he said. “You need to pay people.”

Disease is also taking its toll. Countries with 15 percent H.I.V. prevalence rates can be expected to lose 30 percent of their health workers over a 10-year period, Dr. Nordstrom said. At a news conference, he said antiretroviral drugs needed to be offered to more health workers.

Nurses and others involved in the care of AIDS patients often work in unsafe or dangerous conditions, said Dr. Pedro Cahn, the new president of the International AIDS Society, the main organizer of the AIDS conferences. This conference was the largest ever, drawing 26,057 participants.

Dr. McIntyre, the South African, cited the frustration of nurses who deal with high death rates among their patients because of the lack of antiretroviral drugs. He quoted an unidentified nurse who said, “If I wanted to be an undertaker, I wouldn’t have trained as a nurse.”

As the conference speakers delivered their remarks, hundreds of Africans, Asians and people from around the world began dismantling the global village created here to promote discussion of H.I.V. One exhibit, called “Dress Up Against AIDS,” included 10 dresses by Adriana Bertini, a Brazilian artist, made from thousands of condoms. Nearby were women from the Masaka district of Uganda who displayed their crafts, including mats, straw bowls and drums. In another booth, Kenyan workers showed off sandals and beaded necklaces. In others, attendants handed out pamphlets on programs for H.I.V. and AIDS.

The next AIDS conference will be held in Mexico City in August 2008.

The sad thing is that however ignorant U.N. special envoy on AIDS in Africa Stephen Lewis may be of the medical literature (not to mention the general rule that UN officials are not meant to attack the governments of member nations, however inflated they may feel with virtuous motives when standing up and standing for for establishment science and the rights of women everywhere not to be sexually tyrannized by men) which has stated in crystal clear terms since 1997 that his group scientific-political fantasy of heterosexual pandemic is impossible (Thank you Nancy, sorry you have been forced out into the open finally, and had to write your sadly self-compromising mea exculpa on the AIDSTruth site), the defenders of a more realistic approach are equally without grace in this respect.

Poor Mantombazana “Manto” Tshabalala-Msimang, South Africa’s Health Minister, quotes absolutely no textual authority in reply, thus probably convincing most readers of newspapers who carried this exchange that she had indeed made the country a laughing stock in the knowledgeable environs of the world’s greatest (we are talking quantity here) scientific conference.

South African newspapers on Sunday joined the fray, describing the Toronto display as “a salad stand” and demanding President Thabo Mbeki, who is also often accused of mishandling the AIDS crisis, sack his controversial minister.

“Tshabalala-Mismang has become a comic figure who comes across as a clown, if her behavior in Toronto is anything to go by,” the influential Sunday Times said in an editorial.

“For how long must South Africans suffer the embarrassment of a senior cabinet minister who does not appear to take her work seriously?”…

The government did launch a public ARV program in 2003 and is now providing the drugs to about 175,000 people.

But activists say the drugs only reach a fraction of the people who need them and accuse Tshabalala-Msimang of creating deadly confusion by continuing to promote her home-grown approach to the disease.

City Press Sunday columnist Khathu Mamaila wrote that Tshabalala-Msimang’s determination to promote natural foods such as beetroot and garlic instead of ARVs had “reduced South Africa to an international joke.”

“Maybe she should be allowed to work for the department of agriculture,” he said.


South Africa Defends AIDS Policies


Published: August 20, 2006

Filed at 9:50 a.m. ET

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JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) – South Africa’s health minister on Sunday defended her AIDS policies after a blistering attack by a top U.N. official, but newspapers said she had made the country a laughing stock and demanded her resignation.

Mantombazana Tshabalala-Msimang blamed South Africa’s poor media coverage at last week’s global AIDS conference in Toronto on the Treatment Action Campaign (TAC), whose activists led criticism of her government’s policies.

“I think South Africa did very well,” Tshabalala-Msimang told SABC radio.

“I think the TAC was just a disgrace, a disgrace not only to the (health) department but a disgrace to the whole country. But I think, as South Africa, we really demonstrated that we are doing pretty well.”

TAC supporters were blamed for attacking South Africa’s stand at the Toronto conference, which included a display of Tshabalala-Msimang’s often-criticized prescription of olive oil, beetroot and garlic as a defense against AIDS.

The conference ended on Friday with a broadside delivered by the U.N. special envoy on AIDS in Africa, Stephen Lewis, who derided South Africa’s “lunatic” approach to an epidemic which infects an estimated one in nine of its 45 million people.

South African newspapers on Sunday joined the fray, describing the Toronto display as “a salad stand” and demanding President Thabo Mbeki, who is also often accused of mishandling the AIDS crisis, sack his controversial minister.

“Tshabalala-Mismang has become a comic figure who comes across as a clown, if her behavior in Toronto is anything to go by,” the influential Sunday Times said in an editorial.

“For how long must South Africans suffer the embarrassment of a senior cabinet minister who does not appear to take her work seriously?”

South Africa’s government has frequently been criticized for acting too slowly against AIDS and remaining reluctant to provide sufferers with anti-retroviral (ARV) drugs, the only medication known to slow the progress of the disease.

The government did launch a public ARV program in 2003 and is now providing the drugs to about 175,000 people.

But activists say the drugs only reach a fraction of the people who need them and accuse Tshabalala-Msimang of creating deadly confusion by continuing to promote her home-grown approach to the disease.

City Press Sunday columnist Khathu Mamaila wrote that Tshabalala-Msimang’s determination to promote natural foods such as beetroot and garlic instead of ARVs had “reduced South Africa to an international joke.”

“Maybe she should be allowed to work for the department of agriculture,” he said.

Dr. Mantombazana “Manto” Tshabalala-Msimang’s best answer

We think that Dr Mantombazana’s (she is a qualified physician) best response may be her physical self, at 66 positively glowing with health according to her pic. We challenge most ladies of the same age in Western nations to look half as good. But it is astonishing that someone on Mantombazana “Manto” Tshabalala-Msimang’s staff or elsewhere in the South African government doesn’t simply search the literature and produce the many papers that state loudly and clearly for any layman to understand that the key deficits of the immune system which are so typical of HIV?AIDS, such as the lack of selenium and zinc (in correct proportion to copper), are very quickly remedied by supplements or the appropriate food.

Needless to say, in Africa sometimes the problem is basic nutrition across all fronts, ie insufficient food period. One of the saddest news stories this week concerned the need for many HIV?AIDS patients in Africa to stay on drugs because otherwise they don’t get the food that is supplied with the medication.

Of course, the staff don’t even have to search the literature, they can simply go to the nearest mainstream textbook. For example, the latest professional bible of nutrition and the immune system, Diet and Human Immune Function, edited by David Hughes of the UK Institute of Food Research, Gail Darlington of Epsom and St. Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust, Surrey and Adrianne Bendich of GlaxoSmithKline Consumer Healthcare, New Jersey, with a foreword by William Beisel, emeritus professor of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, Baltimore (Humana Press 2004).

This will quickly give them (and Mr Lewis too, if he has time to read any science at all) a clear picture, nicely outlined in the chapter on “HIV Infection”, by Ph.D’s Marianna Baum and Adriana Campa of Florida International University in Miami, of the completely dominant influence of nutrition on the outcome of treatment of those supposedly suffering from HIV. Naturally the chapter pays lip service to the HIV faith, but every page confirms that nutritional factors rule both decline and recovery. At the end of the 14 page chapter are eight “take home messages”. Listen to the first:

“HIV-1 infection is characterized by protein-energy malnutrition and micronutrient abnormalities, which may persist even after administering effective antiretroviral treatments.”

Other key conclusions:

“Nutritional repletion should be an adjuvant to antiretroviral therapy”…

“Vitamin B1, B2, B3 and B6 deficiencies are accompanied by lack of energy, fatigue, and neuropsychological abnormalities…”

“Vitamin B12 deficiency is associated with faster disease progression and mortality and neurologic abnormalities, which improve with vitamin B12 repletion…

“Vitamin A deficiency is associated with …faster HIV disease progression and mortality.” And finally,

“Selenium and zinc deficiency are associated with immunodeficiency, oxidative stress, increased HIV-related morbidity, and mortality.”

A few key sentences from the body of the article:

“The risk of dying from HIV-related diseases decreased by 33% for every 1 mg/d increase in dietary zinc intake, and this relationship was independent of antiretroviral therapy and CD4 cell count at baseline and over time. The relative risk for mortality for those with an intake under the median (9.34 mg zinc/d) was 11 (eleven!) times greater.”

“Selenium status is predictive of HIV-related prognosis and survival. In a cohort of chronic drug users with HIV-1 infection only selenium deficiency was an independent predictor of survival when joint effect of nutritional deficiencies that had singly predicted mortality was evaluated. This significant effect of selenium persisted when controlling for CD4 count at baseline and over time.”

“Selenium deficiency was associated with decreased length of survival of 31.4 mo, compared with 57.4 mo for those with normal plasma selenium levels.”

“Supplementation of antioxidants, including selenium, may prove to be an important part of the ammunitions used to fight the catastrophic sequelae of the HIV disease and AIDS.”

“A long term double blind placebo-selenium supplementation trial (200mcg selenium/d) in healthy study participants demonstrated a 51% reduction in total cancer mortality and a 41% reduction in total cancer incidence…”

Actually, we see in the study referenced by Baum that she did in 1997, an even more exciting way of expressing these results is that selenium deficiency is associated with a ten to twenty times higher mortality in AIDS patients, ie 90-95 per cent reduction in chances of death if you have adequate levels of selenium. This is much higher than CD4 count, which is associated with only a 31 per cent reduction in risk of death if it is normal over the course of the study, which is barely significant. With very low CD4 levels (under 200 initially in the three and a half year study period), mortality was only three times higher. And similarly, according to another study Baum’s group did, zinc deficiency yields a three to five times greater chance of death than adequate zinc levels in the blood plasma. An Italian study in 1995 showed a reduction of opportunistic infections of 13 fold – 92% – with one month’s zinc supplementation to AIDS patients on AZT, which benefit continued for two years, whereas those untreated with zinc but on AZT did no better. The AIDS symptoms PCP and candidiasis were virtually wiped out with zinc.

(Special note for the strong minded:

Have a HAART

It is important to say here that HAART is associated with an increase in selenium and zinc plasma levels, as noted in our earlier post. This is probably a main reason why AIDS patients given HAART may leap from their beds and climb mountains, as they say, and why we are constantly told that dying Africans brought into clinics in wheelbarrows are restored to health and walk back to their villages after three months of ARVs and adequate food.

But why is there this special boosting effect, which studies haven’t yet explained (except in HIV related terms, of course, with the recovery mechanism undemonstrated)? This book suggests an answer.

Apart from the usual stimulation of the immune system by introducing a poison, which it takes as evidence of a pathogen, the phenomenon is probably due to protease inhibitors, though it is not clear why, since these two elements are not of course in the chemical makeup of the drugs. Possibly there is a digestive effect, due to a broad spectrum antibiotic effect knocking out parasites and pathogenic bacteria in the intestines. These would be associated with the diarrhea and malabsorption of trace elements in the gastrointestinal distress common in AIDS, and why doctors may advise patients to take yogurt and other probiotics to increase the beneficial microflora of the gut, known to improve the performance of the immune system, as another chapter, “Probiotics and immunomodulation”, in this book explains. Yet another chapter describes how drugs knock down the immune system: “Use of drugs that affect nutrition and immune function”, including glucocorticoids (corticosteroids), which are very relevant to AIDS risk groups. A section of that chapter describes “Drugs and HIV Infection”.

Of course all this is temporary as the recent study result tells us, showing HAART hasn’t dented long term survival rates in the last decade.)

And of course, while lip service is paid to ARVs throughout, any reader wearing non-HIV spectacles will find that one of the editors, Adrianne Bendich Ph.D from GlaxoSmithKline, in her review of drugs provides enough valuable patient oriented information on adverse drug side effects to get her into a little trouble if anyone from Glaxo reads it carefully, so in gratitude we won’t emphasize that too much. And given the contribution of Baum and Campa to the enlightenment of those is search of a better answer to the “mystery” of HIV?AIDS, we won’t draw attention to them either. Otherwise we can imagine them having to write out “We didn’t mean to diss HIV” 100 times on the AIDSTruth.org site, just as Nancy Padian has been forced to do.

In fact, the TAC has mercilessly pursued Mantombazana “Manto” Tshabalala-Msimang on this front from the beginning of the Conference, and is now joyfully posting the news reports and editorials on the AIDS Truth web site.

C’mon guys and gals, read the texts. They won’t bite

All we mean to do is urge someone on Mantombazana “Manto” Tshabalala-Msimang’s advisory staff to order this volume from Amazon forthwith, instead of being kicked around by the TAC and the ignorant editorial writers of the South African press for peddling olive oil, beetroot and garlic as home remedies – even though there are in fact plenty of studies supporting the anti-infection properties of garlic, the Mediterranean diet based on olive oil is acknowledged to be exemplary, and beetroot is good for the liver, the key to health and detoxification (beetroot contains betaine, closely related to another methyl donor choline, a B complex factor shown in mainstream studies to support liver function and promote liver regeneration).

Quote the mainstream authorities back at the TAC goons, Manto. Learn the simple, mainstream validated picture which is the answer to HIV?AIDS and all its “conundrums”.

As for us, we would have advised her or anybody else at the HIV?AIDS conference, if they wanted to do anything useful with their time there other than watch the lunacy of faith in action, they should have made sure to meet Marianna K. Baum and Adriana Campa.

They are the true heroes of HIV?AIDS research, not the once globally celebrated specialist in useless achievements in AIDS, Robert Gallo, whose only signal achievement so far is to show beyond reasonable doubt that HIV was not the cause of AIDS before any other scientist did.

21 Responses to “Attack on Mbeki and nutrients ends AIDS bash”

  1. Orwell's Ghost Says:

    Anyone who thinks the Democrats might bring any significant change in the dominant mindset of “HIV=AIDS/test everyone/drug everyone,” check out the major news coverage of the 15 day visit to Africa by U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) that just began. Obama is the much-watched first term African-American Senator often mentioned as a future nominee for vice president or even president.

    In South Africa this morning, the first news of the day generated by Obama’s trip is contained in a dispatch at the Chicago Tribune’s Web site by one of its reporters, titled “Obama to get HIV test.” Quoting from the article, Obama “said today that he intends to get an HIV test here in Africa, hoping to send a message to men across the continent to follow his lead. ‘All leaders have a responsibility to speak loudly and clearly about this issue,’ Obama said, speaking to a group of young AIDS educators in this township outside Cape Town. ‘Leading by example is the right thing to do.’ On the second day of a two-week tour of Africa, Obama. . . criticized the South African government for its handling of the health epidemic that claims as many as 1,000 lives a day.” He told Tribune Washington bureau chief Lynn Sweet that he will get the test in front of the cameras.

    Obama started his day in South Africa (August 21) with a visit to the offices of the TAC (Treatment Action Campaign), the group that (to re-state the obvious) has mercilessly attacked SA President Mbeki’s policy on HIV-AIDS and antiretrovirals and has recently initiated a civil disobedience campaign to get Mbeki’s health minister, Manto Tshabalala-Msimang, M.D., fired. (It’s not clear yet if the TAC is the “young AIDS educators” that Obama met with, as mentioned in the Chicago Trib blog.) Obama met with TAC president Zackie Achmat, a vehement proponent of HIV=AIDS and ARVs-for-all. Last week, Achmat led TAC demonstrators who occupied several SA government buildings, getting international media attention and demanding that Dr. Tshabalala-Msimang be arrested and charged with murder, to quote the AP, “accusing her of allowing unnecessary and preventable deaths because of her policies on AIDS.”

  2. Michael David Says:

    The SA gocvernment was not quite as meek in its reply to the outrage at the end of the stale white bread Toronto AIDS show as TS’ post would indicate. According to a widely distributed story of the 19th:

    South Africa dismisses AIDS policy criticism

    By Andrew Quinn (AP) Sat, Aug 19, 10:04 AM ET

    “South Africa dismissed harsh criticism of its AIDS policy by a top U.N. official “with contempt” on Saturday and said he was no Messiah for Africa’s HIV/AIDS crisis.

    U.N. special envoy on AIDS in Africa Stephen Lewis closed a global conference on Friday with probably the most blistering attack ever on South Africa’s “lunatic fringe” approach to AIDS, calling it immoral and ineffective.

    Lewis’ comments, echoed by other speakers at the Toronto conference, represented a diplomatic broadside against President Thabo Mbeki’s government … Health Ministry spokesman Sibani Mngadi issued a statement on Saturday rejecting Lewis’ speech “with contempt.”

    “Lewis is not Africa’s Messiah,” … “What Africa needs now is not unsubstantiated attacks on democratically elected governments, but delivery on the many resolutions made with regard to addressing poverty and underdevelopment which increases the vulnerability of our population to disease,” Mngadi said.”

  3. GS Says:

    Monday August 13, 2006


    HIV Attachment, Penetration, and Tropism

    This session was highlighted by the sheer lack of tolerance orthodox AIDS researchers demonstrate towards their fellow scientists. CCR5 and CXC4 antagonists are the new big boys in the pharmaceutical market. It was not surprising, therefore, to witness a panel of “scientists” laugh at a fellow researcher who suggested that the mainstream perspective is too narrow-minded. A man, whose name I did not catch, suggested that there has been a complete ignorance of contemporary research demonstrating the possibility that HIV also has a mannose co-receptor. Following this, the panel appeared to be clueless as to what to say. Instead of acknowledging this man, for presenting this data, the panelists giggled amongst themselves. It was rather like watching a group of dumb cheerleaders – “Give a cheer for HIV, but heaven forbid we have to learn anything new (even if it goes along with our debunked hypothesis)”.


    I spent this time in the exhibition area. This area is full of commercial exhibitions from big pharma, funding organizations, and laboratory supplies companies. The pure waste of money in the field of HIV research was demonstrated during this time period. I carried home approximately fifty pounds of promotional propaganda that day.
    Many protests also broke out during the time I spent in this area. ACT UP France and a group from India attacked the vacant Abbott Lab. booth. While there, these groups bitched about not being spoon-fed cheap toxic drugs. It is rather sad to see grown men and women cry for access to toxic chemicals.


    Neutralizing Antibodies to HIV

    This session was rather calm. Most of the top names in this area of research had decided that this conference was not worth their presence. This resulted in a room of grad students too nervous to attack each others’ work. My only question ….. considering the low amounts of HIV in peoples’ bodies, is it not safe to say that most HIV antibodies are neutralizing?


    Novel Targets for Drug Development (FUN TIMES!!!!)

    After an interesting presentation on APOBEC3G and a boring presentation by Dr. E. Cohen, we were subjected to the ranting of Dr. Moore. Violations of macaques, unsupported numbers, and nasty jokes about rings and goop have all been highlighted. Thus far not highlighted, however, was the appearance of Dr. Moore’s ever-growing hard-on for AIDS dissidents. In a session with nothing to do about AIDS dissidents, Moore made the issue salient once again. Placed at the end of his slide show was a “stop AIDS denial” slide. This really is a testament to how much truth Moore thinks the dissident perspective holds. Why would a man who did not believe dissident claims to be true spend so much time attempting to stop them? I feel Dr. Moore feels threatened by the impact the growing dissident movement may have on his future pay.

    Thank you everyone for your interest in my experience at this conference. I would like McK to understand that he is not being lied to. The presence of a dissident at these conferences has very little impact. Speaking up (in a room of 200 orthodox AIDS believers) is a suicide mission!


  4. Michael Says:

    Not a lot of talk about something definitely KNOWN to be of benefit such as nutrition, but a lot of talk in Toronto was about, go figure, circumcision. It is a big discussion area in HIV research right now, with news of it in all of the papers, TV, and also being discussed on science blog sites such as Tara Smith’s Aetiology site. It is no wonder that Mngadi and Mbeki are getting defensive, I mean, we are talking about the family jewels.

    I just tried to post something under Tara’s post on circumcision, however, she hold all posts from me, and it is questionable as to whether my views will recieve the public exposure on her site that I believe it deserves.

    Circumcision, at this point, is seemingly one of the great advancements of note in the world of HIV science and medicine.

    Here was my now-held up post for Tara’s readers to ponder:

    (if you have a queasy stomach, do not read this, as the entire issue makes me queasy!)

    I think the circumcision thing is one of the best ideas that modern science has come up with in fighting HIV.

    I am just not sure how it will be accomplished, but I do see benefits for it in various different areas.

    It could create a lot of jobs in Africa or even for various people to join in a world effort to accomplish this Herculean feat of circumcising 500 million Africans. It IS going to take a lot of man, and perhaps even woman power to accomplish it.

    As I said, I don’t know how it will be actually done, but I can just imagine our scientists and medical teams going through the jungles with a circumcision blade reaching out for these black mens genitalia. Hopefully they will be tacit about it, and not scare too many back deeper into the jungles.

    Or perhaps it could be done on a larger scale in villages, where, say, all men would line up in a long line and hold out their appendages, and perhaps something like a self sterilising weed-whacker could be instituted. It could even be called a “wiener whacker”.

    This could benefit American companies and even create a lot of jobs over here, in the manufacture of these medical weiner wackers.

    The only draw back, is that we all know, that all wieners are not created equal. And we don’t want anyone to get their fingers lopped off in the process.

    Therefore, I propose a deal with the Weiner Schnitzel hot dog take-out chain, to provide 500 million wiener buns in small, medium, large, and extra and perhaps extra extra large. The men and boys could simply hold the bun and whatever is protruding gets whacked.

    Benefits all around. HIV minimalized, jobs created here and in Africa, business for American companies and wheat growers, AND whatever is left could even be fed to the poor starving dogs that are to be found through-out many of the poor ghettos in the cities of Africa, and I am sure they could find something to do to make use of the leftover buns.

    Win Win situation, and all that.

    This is American ingenuity of HIV Science, Medicine, and Industry, at its finest!

  5. Dr. Harvey S. Bialy Says:

    A few words of truth concerning the very Hon. Manto Tshabalala-Mismang.

    When I first was introduced to the Minister at the opening reception of President Mbeki’s AIDS Advisory Panel in 2000, the ice in her eyes and the frost in her handshake made me think the tip of the Motherland had broken off and was closing on the antarctic.

    By the end of the Panel meetings a few weeks later, we were dancing Pata Pata into the wee hours.

    She is one of the most ferociously intelligent people I have ever met, and certainly is unique in the public courage she displayed, and has maintained despite the vicious and untrue attacks from many quarters, in turning 180 degrees because she actually attended to all that those remarkable meetings had to offer.

    She is my favorite person in South Africa.

  6. Dr. Harvey S. Bialy Says:

    And Barack Obama can go bugger himself, and preferably in front of the TV cameras too.

  7. Martin Kessler Says:

    Conservatives want to make you virtuous (no sex), Liberals want to make you healthy (condoms), both have no problem with using the coercive powers of the state to make you comply. This is a paraphrase of an aphorism of Thomas Szasz from his book, the Second Sin.

  8. McKiernan Says:

    It must be Harvey S Bialy day, today. Sorry, Michael David but no it wasn’t crystal.

    The point wasn’t that dissidents ought merely show up in Toronto with placards or usurp all the microphones.

    We are informed by NAR that there are scientists which hold in secure academic bondage a body of truths which can be categorized under one or more of the following symbolic iconographic nomenclatures:

    HIV ? AIDS


    HIV Cartesian AIDS

    HIV x AIDS.






    HIV in AIDS

    AIDS = AIDS denialism



    HIV/AIDS ?









    If in fact the truth is communicable as Thomas Acquinas informs, what would preclude a dissident not attending the Conference for purposes of inter-acting with one or more of the 25,000 participants ?

    Like, if you want to sell Oreck vacuum cleaners, you have to ring the doorbells. There were 25,000 doorbells to ring in Toronto.

    Anyone heard of the power lunch ?.

    You cudda been contenders instead of groaners and soreheads.

  9. Truthseeker Says:

    This session was rather calm. Most of the top names in this area of research had decided that this conference was not worth their presence. This resulted in a room of grad students too nervous to attack each others’ work. My only question ….. considering the low amounts of HIV in peoples’ bodies, is it not safe to say that most HIV antibodies are neutralizing?

    Speaking up (in a room of 200 orthodox AIDS believers) is a suicide mission!

    GS, given your clear head about what is going on, did the second thought prevent your mentioning the first at the mike? Or are you saying that your venture into the role of thinking scientist at this session cured you from such public heresy for ever?

    if the first, then with the session so calm, it brings home just how powerful is the effect of social pressure in public auditoria. Only madmen and crackpots dare flout it!

    Perhaps one ought to think of Bertrand Russell to bolster one’s confidence in such circumstances. We find that afterwards, we can think much better of cleverly diplomatic ways of luring the rabbit out of the hole.

    For example, Robert Houston at the mike during the Fauci-Krim panel at the New School celebrating AIDS after 25 Years recently simply asked Fauci how HIV killed T cells. He got a marvelous answer indicating that Fauci has no idea of the latest literature on the subject.

    Later we wished we had asked how Fauci explained heterosexual transmission of antibodies without virus present to any significant degree.

  10. Truthseeker Says:

    McKiernan, with all respect can you cease making repetitive and silly comments on this site? This is a reference site and not a chat board, and posters must contribute information or advance the discussion in some way.

    At the very least you have to make fifth repetition posts scan and rhyme.

  11. GS Says:


    It was the second thought that prevented me from speaking the first. I would love to ask as many questions as I could possibly speak. The fact remains, however, I am a Governmentally and privately funded student. I must, therefore, bite my tongue until I have secured a position.

    This is one of the major fault of contemporary academia!

  12. McKiernan Says:

    It was the second thought that prevented me from speaking the first. I would love to ask as many questions as I could possibly speak. The fact remains, however, I am a Governmentally and privately funded student. I must, therefore, bite my tongue until I have secured a position.

    This is one of the major faults of contemporary academia!

    Ah-so desu-ka ? Honto-desu-ne ? The fact is ALL the University’s both public and most ALL private have bought into Big Brother. The only college I can think of that does not solicit or accept federal monies for its operations is Hillsdale.

    McK had 20 years education + 8 years military then exited to civilian life and found everyone is on the take. The country, I grew up in, doesn’t exist. It’s been sold out.

    Look at the Congress and Senate for the past 30 years. We are their servants, not they ours.

    I could cynically ask, GS, “what makes you think you will retrieve your independence after you secure a position ?”

    But I hesitate. May truth out.

    Chogyam said, :

    “When you spell out the truth it loses its essence and becomes either “my” truth or “your” truth; it becomes an end in itself. When you spell out the truth, you are spending your capital while no one gets any profit. It becomes undignified, a giveaway. By implying the truth, the truth doesn’t become anyone’s property”.

    There might be a point here, I’m not sure but “groupo Bialy” seems to think red cards and yellow cards will achieve victory. I think not. And a shoot out wont help either.

    Methinks there are language structural problemos to overcome. Somehow opposing sides must intra-communicate. N’est pas ?

    Caution: this post may not pass high tea protocols.

  13. GS Says:


    I have not lost my independence. I am clearly able to understand the science (or lack thereof) behind AIDS. I have mental independence. This is more than can be said of researchers who blindly accept HIV to be the cause of AIDS!

    Must I be branded because I accepted research funding to aid me through an education? I am not quite sure I could afford such an education without said monies.

    Trust me. My publications will only demonstrate my observations. Unlike the trained seals, I will not mention HIV and AIDS as if the two are a single entity.

    I am not horrible for accepting funding, and the funding itself is not evil. It is the abuse (which occurs too often) of this funding system that is wrong.

    Dr. Duesberg accepted funding, and perhaps still would. It is the abuses of the system, which prevent him from getting funding, that are shameful!


  14. Celia Farber Says:

    I just found this explosive thread at REASON.com.

    GS, are the interpretations of “Chuck” correct? If yes, did HAART in fact fall and crumble in the summer of 2006?
    Was this part of the zeitgeist in Toronto? I mean, was it a major part of the conference mood?


    I hope you folks will keep talking to each other. It is, unlike 99% of the damn blog, the kind of discussion that awakens and teaches.

  15. GS Says:

    Sorry to tell you Ms. Farber, but I would not get my hopes up. While this publication clearly shows HAART to be ineffective, the masterminds at AIDS Inc. are finding new ways to market these deadly chemicals. Dr. Julio Montaner presented his hypothesis about reducing HIV transmission through the use of HAART. Montaner maintains that increases in HAART use will reduce viral loads, and this will reduce transmission rates.

    Although we all know there is no transmission to be worried about, this “theory” was enjoyed by the several hundred MDs present.

    The conference also presented the co-receptor antagonist that will shortly be thrown into the HAART family.

    Same old story: no evidence – increased production – increased push

    These bastards are also bragging about their drug trials using uninfected individuals. It is foreseeable; therefore, that HAART will be soon used as a preventative tool.

    Simple message from Toronto – The more HAART fails, the more AIDS Inc. will use and push it!

  16. Celia Farber Says:

    Good God.

  17. Orwell's Ghost Says:

    Before the Toronto conference even began, hyped up news stories in the mainstream media appeared about “promising” clinical trials of PrEP – Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis Therapy in which (as the writers at Kaiser Foundation put it on August 11, 2006) “HIV-negative people receive antiretroviral drugs to prevent HIV transmission.” Two major stories on this were (Reuters August 9, pre-Toronto) “Tests probe if pill a day can keep AIDS at bay” and (AP August 12) “HIV prevention pill deemed safe.”

    Quoting from the Reuters story: “Can the drugs that keep HIV-positive people alive also make it safer to enjoy carefree sex — much as during the pre-AIDS 1970s? Health officials in the United States, Thailand, Botswana and elsewhere are now trying to find out by conducting trials in which healthy people take drug cocktails that suppress the virus. ‘The information that we have indicates that this is a very promising approach,’ said the University of California, San Francisco’s Robert Grant, who is overseeing an upcoming study to be conducted in Peru. . .If PrEP works — and it will likely take several years to gain a conclusive answer — ‘it could stand to save thousands of people from being infected,’ said Melanie Thompson, who is leading a PrEP study in Atlanta.”

    Excerpts from the AP story: “The first test of a daily pill to prevent HIV infection gave a tantalizing hint of success, but a real answer must await a larger study due out next year. The experiment, done in Africa, mainly showed that the drug Viread is safe when used for prevention. Fewer people given the drug caught the AIDS virus than those given dummy pills, but so few in either group became infected that valid comparisons cannot be made, scientists said. Still, ‘it’s incredibly encouraging,’ said Dr. Helene Gayle, president of the antipoverty group CARE and co-chair of the International AIDS Conference in Toronto, where the results were released on Saturday.”

  18. john_fr Says:

    because Viread contains a carbon-phosphorous bond, it is a reducing agent. It seams natural that it reduce the oxidative stress and consequently those surrogate markers : antibodies, viral load,…
    The +III phosphorous is able for instance to reduce azides (AZT) in amines…

  19. john_fr Says:

    but, how evolves their health with viread ?

  20. Orwell's Ghost Says:

    More on U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), and his high profile trip to South Africa this week – of note mainly because the powers-that-be appear to be positioning him for a major future role in U.S national politics (maybe as Hillary’s running mate in ’08).

    From an article at Independent Online (South Africa) August 22, 2006:

    Referring to one of the government’s major challenges, Aids, Obama said everybody needed to be tested for HIV.

    “There needs to be a sense of urgency and almost a clinical truthteller about Aids in this country for the problem to be solved. Not ambiguity,” he said.

    He also called for radical change in people’s sexual behaviour, especially men.

    Earlier, Obama had visited Aids patients in Khayelitsha. There, he described Health Minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang’s treatment information as “inaccurate”.

    He said it was not a matter of Western science versus African science, but the application of science that was not right.

    “There should not be a conflict between traditional values and modern science,” he said last night.

    Another article, by the UN Integrated Regional Information Networks at allAfrica.com, titled “South Africa: U.S. Senator Criticises Aids Response,” reports this:

    United States Senator Barack Obama has criticised South Africa’s leaders for their HIV/AIDS policy, saying health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang was “making a terrible mistake” by promoting traditional medicines to fight AIDS while undermining the role of antiretroviral (ARV) therapy.

  21. Michael Says:

    Any wishing to address South Africa may do so on the Blogsite of the South African Newspaper “Mail &Guardian”.

    A current thread asks if Manto Tshabalala-Msimang should be fired.

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